South Point Poker Room Review
Last updated: 08/02/10
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Phone: (702) 797-8073
Web: http://www.allvegaspoker.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=53
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Address: 9777 Las Vegas Blvd South
Editor's Review
South Point Poker Room News
South Point Poker Room Information
Tables: 22
Betting Limits:
| Game | Bets | Frequency |
MinBuy-in | MaxBuy-in | Notes |
| Holdem Limit |
$2/4 half kill |
Regular |
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| Holdem Limit |
$2-6 spread |
Regular |
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Usually with half kill |
| Holdem Limit |
$3/6 half kill |
Occasional |
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| Holdem No Limit |
$1/2 |
Regular |
$100 |
$300 |
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South Point Poker Tournaments: Yes
| Game | Days | Time |
Buy-in | Admin fee | |
| NL Hold'em | Mo,Tu,We,Th,Fr,Sa,Su | 10:00 AM | $60 | $10 | details | | NL Hold'em | Mo,Tu,Fr,Sa, | 02:00 PM | $110 | $10 | details | | NL Hold'em | Mo,Tu,We,Th,Fr,Sa, | 07:00 PM | $80 | $10 | details |
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Weekend Wait-Time: 15-20 minutes most of the time. Call ins are welcome.
Smoking Allowed: No
Poker Room Rate: Yes
$45 Sunday-Thursday
$85 Friday-Saturday
4 hours of cash game play per day required to qualify
Call the room to confirm rates.
Editor's Review - South Point Poker Room
Total Rating: 4.00
Room Quality Rating: 4
**Last Updated: 07/20/10**
The South Point poker room, located in the southwest corner of the casino, is a poker “area”, walled on two sides, and half walls enclosing the room. This space allotted to poker is quite substantial, and thus all tables are well spread out from each other, allowing quite of bit of room for all players to lean back and maneuver between the tables. All 11 tables have auto shufflers, and all games are spread 10 handed.
The room aesthetics are quite plain, but there are several plasma widescreen televisions on both walls of the room, which makes sports viewing quite easy. Also, the South Point Sports book is open 24 hours a day, and is located directly next to the poker room, so sports betting is quite easy. The color palette of the room is gold and red accents (including dark burgundy felts). All tables have a betting line.
Restrooms are very conveniently located alongside the poker room, and valet parking puts customers quite close to the room itself, though self parking is a decent walk, especially for a local’s room. The general layout of the room is rather plain, since it is a rectangular room with half walls, but the room itself serves its purpose and accomplishes its obvious goal of simply offering poker to its customers. This is very much a “no frills room” that sticks to the basics, and offers a convenient and comfortable place to play cards.
South Point offers tableside food service from the room service menu, and can be paid for with earned poker room comps. The food is delivered directly to the table, and set on a chair (unfortunately, side tables are not available). The food is quite good, and reasonably priced.
The room quality is slightly marred by some of the rules that the room has implemented. The room does not allow the buying of the button nor does it allow straddling to make up the blinds. Cel phones are prohibited, and the room is not mixed game friendly. They will not spread any high low split games, draw games, or the like. They are limited to limit and NL Hold’em, as well as Omaha and Stud High (though 100% of the time, this room spreads Hold’em only).
Competition Rating: 4
Being a local's casino, the South Point is largely dominated by regulars and local players. However, the room gets significantly more tourist traffic than the average local card room due to the large timeshare hotel located next door, the 2,000 rooms on site, and the equestrian center (the only one in the city). This leads South Point to having a very strong mix of locals and tourist players, much more than a typical locals's casino.
During the week, the games can be quite action driven as the room is largely experienced locals and off duty casino employees. Though these players are experienced, they often are not afriad to create action and create big pots.
The NL game has a $100-$300 buy in, and has many casino employees and south side locals’ playing cards, often making the games loose and wild. Straddles are common, and the pots sizes are often quite large considering it is a basic 1/2 blind NL game. Though this reviewer has played on all shifts, the best games are found on Swing shift (after 7PM) as well as graveyard (standard for the industry).
As of December, 2009, the room continues to have dependable action nearly 24 hours a day. The room often gets 2-3 NLHE games and 2-3 LHE games every evening, with games breaking down to 2 NLHE games and 1 NLHE game by 2AM fairly consistently. By 4 AM, there are usually 1 of each, and by 6AM, there is usually 1 NLHE game which often breaks by 10AM then re-starts around noon.
With the opening of the M Resort a couple miles away, the room has lost some of its regulars, but continues to be a popular room designed for the local and tourist crowd.
Dealer Rating: 3
The dealers at South Point Poker Room vary greatly in quality and overall competence from shift to shift. Though the majority of the South Point dealing staff is very competent, quick, and friendly, there are a few that still struggle with basic hand reading, side pot calculations, and are painfully slow.
This reviewer usually plays on graveyard, where all dealers seem to be well versed in game control and proper dealing procedure. Very few to any break-in dealers are found on this shift.
However, on other shifts, the dealers seem to be from another era. They are quiet, reserved, and generally are all business, with little to no genuine personality shining through. This tends to rub some tourist patrons the wrong way, as they seem to be a little intimidated by the all business angle, but still adapt well to the game.
Communication can be a problem at times, as English is not the first language of more than a few of the dealers, but mechanical competence is duly noted, and game control is generally well maintained. This is much more of an issue on dayshift than graveyard, from what this reviewer has noticed.
Cocktail Rating: 5
Cocktail service at the South Point poker room rivals that of the best Strip casinos. All premiums are available, including Pellegrino water and Red Bull (not served in the can). The cocktail servers are very quick, and will serve more than one drink most of the time.
There are only two cocktail servers in Las Vegas that this editor will tip $5 minimum every time, and one of them, Ashley, works at South Point (the other is Andrea who works at Treasure Island). Ashley is the definition of class, competence, speed, intellect, and personality, and is a true model for all cocktail waitresses in Las Vegas. She alone adds significant credibility to the cocktail service of the entire South Point resort.
South Point is non-union for their cocktail servers, so all are young and attractive model quality. Overall, the cocktail service is one of the strongest points of the South Point poker room.
Management Rating: 4
The management of the South Point poker room is above standard for most poker rooms in Las Vegas. Though they do have some rather antiquated rules and their list management system is quite old fashioned (paper and pen), the management staff is quite friendly, open, and is knowledgeable about poker, and able to make informed and correct decisions.
Their antiquated rules include disallowing the buying of the button, inability to post a straddle to make up the blinds, and the flat out unwillingness to start a non-hold-em game, even with a full table of players wanting to play.
When South Coast became South Point, the rake was increased to $4 + $1, from the Coast standard of $3 +$1. This can be justified due to the vast majority of poker rooms in Vegas charging $4+1 per hand in their games. The remaining Coast properties, with the exception of Sam’s Town, still charge $3 +1 (this includes Orleans, Gold Coast, and SunCoast).
Perry, the Graveyard Shift Manager and known AVP Member, is quite a character, and adds significant credibility to the room. His long term background as a poker player helps immensely with proper player and room management. His list management and balancing of tables (as new players enter) protect the existing games and allows more games to start without fear of losing action. He is one of the few poker room operators that can properly handle a paper list management system as quickly if not more quickly than the electronic Bravo system that many poker rooms utilize. Steve is another manager the easily deserves recognition. He is another individual that truly understands the Vegas local's mindset, and runs the room in a way that makes players comfortable and glad to be there. Steve is also an AVP member.
The room could use some technology. The comps could use significantly better tracking to be on par with other local’s casinos (including having the ability to swipe players’ cards at the table); though the system they currently use is on par with the other Coast properties (remember that South Point was formerly South Coast).
As of August 2009, the South Point poker room is awkwardly positioned due to a major casino expansion.
Another aspect worth noting is the generally questionable promotions menu that the Point offers. Most promotions involve very little prize money when compared to other properties, and the high hand jackpots reset to very low amounts ($50 for quads, $100 for Straight and Royal flushes). Recently a wheel was used that involved spinning it 5 times to make a hand. These type of gimmicky promotions work in a Strip room where there a decent amount of guarnateed money distributed, but with the random seat drawings, and $25 minimum (originally a buffet comp), they seem forced and non-motivational.
South Point does run an annual freeroll that is quite good, and does bring in the numbers. The structure of the freeroll is quite poor, but such is expected as the tournament is indeed a freeroll.
As the room does not have Genesis Bravo installed in the tables (South Point is one of the only local casinos to lack this technology, as all Stations and the M resort have it in use), promotions such as freerolls lack some integrity due to the ability to swipe in at the desk and not play. This would be alleviated with the installation of Genesis Bravo.
Overall, the management ranks as 4 out of 5. Once the unnecessary rules are removed (including the cel phone use, blind buying etc), and some better technology is added, this room will easily improve to a 5 rating for management.
Comps Rating: 4
As of December 2009, South Point has comformed to the norm regarding comps and has begun awarding players with a flat $1 per hour comps on their South Point poker room players' card. These comps can be redeemed for use at any venue on the property and require a paper comp to be generated from the poker room management desk.
South Point does offer a good poker rate for customers staying in the hotel, for only 4 hours of play per day (cash game play). They also offer high hand jackpots which are taken from the jackpot drop. Their high hand system is a bit odd, though. Instead of each straight flush being progressive, the straight flushes are paid by suit; however the quads are paid by rank.
Their hourly comps, are quite versatile, and can be used anywhere in the casino, including the gift shop. The only exception is the movie theatre, which is a leased department, and thus cannot accept casino comps.
As of December 2009, the paper comp, once issued, can be used at all retail venues on the property with the sole exception of the movie theatre (which is a leased department). The comp can be taken to the penny, and is extremely easy to present and use.
We would like to see the casino player's card and the poker card combine into one. It is quite annoying to play poker then want to play slots or the pit and be required to carry a second card. We hope that this is addressed when the rooms expands and adds new technology.
The room runs two yearly freerolls for players that play a certain number of hours in the room.
Overall, the comps offered by South Point are not that great, but not that bad either. It is definitely worth it to get a poker comp card when you visit, as they do add up rather quickly.
South Point Poker Room News
South Point Grand Opens brand new 22 table poker room!
Date: 07/15/10
Summary:South Point Hotel and Casino, grand opened it's new south wing casino expansion, which includes an all new 22 table poker room!
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South Point Poker Room Player Reviews
Summary of Player Reviews:
Overall: 4.53
Room Quality: 4.83
Competition: 3.83
Dealer Rating: 4.17
Cocktail Rating: 4.83
Management Rating: 4.50
Comps Rating: 4.50
comfortable and competitive
By: TRB 08/28/10
Total Rating: 4.00
Lot's of fun and a Superstar
By: XMAN 08/12/10
Total Rating: 4.60
Like playing in a home game
By: pokerbum 07/28/10
Total Rating: 4.65
pretty nice room
By: Zolive2K 07/25/10
Total Rating: 4.65
Worth the trip
By: SexyFloorman69 07/22/10
Total Rating: 4.55
Great New Room
By: The Sledgehammer 07/21/10
Total Rating: 4.75
Trip Reports About South Point Poker Room
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View of the front desk.

View of the west side of the room (tournament tables)

View of the cash game side.

Looking inside the room from the rail.

Another view looking into the room from the front.
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